21. First of all anyone planning on stacking these machines is dreaming, unless you want them to crash all the time. Both of them will need lots of ventilation and room to breathe or they will overheat. They both look good, I'm just pissed the 360 only comes in white, because I want my PS3 in black, and the 360 I think will look goofy with just the black faceplate, but I'll just have to see. But overall I think both designs are VAST improvements over the current gen--the X box is a ugly piece of crap, and the PS2 ain't far behind. Neither machine is all that big either, especially considering the amount of stuff they crammed into them.

As for the people complaining about the font, since when the @&*k did the gaming community become a bunch of typologists? Jesus, you'd think everyone here was an editor for the NY Times. Sony owns the friggin' font, they own Spiderman, so give it up. Duh.

As for the controllers, they look a little weird, but comfy, I'd have to try them to find out. If I don't like them I'll buy one from a third party anyway.

Overall, I am totally psyched for both machines both on the design side and in the amount of power they will deliver. I think Sony outdid themselves on the specs, and M$ has done a great job of courting developers and fine tuning Live, so I think they are both here to stay. Sony should remain on top, but 360 will give them a headache for the full run of this gen, especially since it should come in at a lower price point which should give M$ an edge early on.

But in the long run, Blu-Ray and nearly double the power will give Sony continued dominance. That said, Sony is likely to wind up with a comparatively smaller market share worldwide than they enjoy today because of M$ head start this time around. Nintendo is probably doomed to be a niche player for kids, but that's still a very large market and they'll stick around for a while too, which is good for everyone. Parents love Nintendo, they know their 5 year old kids can't play GTA on it and sticking with a below $200 price point is wise for them.

Anyway, now it looks like I'm going to have to wait for Sony to come out with 1080p LCD SHDTV with cell. I'm thinking they will do a full rollout in 2006 once the cell fabs are up and running. Guess I'm going to have to live with my 27" POS for a while. :(

Posted at 5:39AM on Dec 19th 2005 by Dave

22. BUY AMERICAN - BUY XBOX360

Posted at 5:39AM on Dec 19th 2005 by PMM

23. I like the overall design of the console, not so much the controller though. I also think the console is also a conceptual design by the fact it looks like they basically reused the PS2 design with a few simple modifications. I seriously don't expect it to look anything like this when it actually comes out. Though, no matter what it looks like I will still end up buying it because I'm a consumer whore... *cries over his empty bank account*

Posted at 5:39AM on Dec 19th 2005 by Ashton

24. who else besides me is excited about the slot instead of disc tray?

Posted at 5:39AM on Dec 19th 2005 by Rare Hare

25. The design looks okay. The controller needs work - it looks like the Batarang in the 1st batman with Michael Keaton - just set it and forget it!

The one thing that I'm surprised about is that none of their focus groups brought up the power switch on the back panel being a pain, or that enough people complained about it being there on the PS2. Hell, they even came out with an 'accessory' for the PS2 to allow you to access the switch from the front (a piece of plastic for about $20.00 - maybe that's the answer to the whole question. Hmm...).

Posted at 5:39AM on Dec 19th 2005 by Martin

26. I hadn't seen the PS3 in that light before. This is a seriously well made piece of playstation.
Whatever it is designed to, I doubt it will retain the exact mould in mid-2006.
The controllers I don't like-- but that's just personal taste isn't it? I mean, so what?
But I do like it. Not a lot. But I like it... it's just so...
"MySteRiOuS"

Posted at 5:39AM on Dec 19th 2005 by Darren

27. I wonder how much Sony plans to charge for it?

Posted at 5:39AM on Dec 19th 2005 by Chels

28. ok this batarang mierda is getting old alright, the controller looks very modern, very comfortable, my hands are big and the handles on the ps2 controller where getting annoying. the indutrial design looks good, it does not look like an overambitious, cartoonish design like xbox360's

Posted at 5:39AM on Dec 19th 2005 by leblanchomme

29. At least they got rid of those trays that hold the disks, I always wondered why cars could have the 'feeding' disk in their head units and home electronics could not...

Posted at 5:39AM on Dec 19th 2005 by JayS

30. i CAN"T WAIT!!!!!!! im GonnA HAng myself right now!!!!

Posted at 5:39AM on Dec 19th 2005 by xbox 187

31. Its hard to believe how many people were bashing the way the 360 looks but dont say shit about this ugly thing.
looks stupid

Posted at 5:39AM on Dec 19th 2005 by TR5

32. I find it interesting, but not surprising, that the most vocal critics of Sony's industrial design are Xbox users. Go figure. If you were planning on buying that uninspired, boring, dull piece of kit I wouldn't expect you to have any sense for real design.

Let me guess, the iPod looks like a pack of cigarettes?

Posted at 5:39AM on Dec 19th 2005 by mt

33. The size of this thing has been known for several days now from a comparison on gamespot, and they confirmed that this thing is significantly bigger than the original xbox. The controller looks ridiculus, and the people that are defending it reveal their stupidity. As far as the design of the two consoles (ignoring the ginormous size of the ps3), I think they both look pretty nice. There are aspects of the xbox design that I like better, (the curves, the color and the "ring of light"), and there are aspects of the ps3 that look nice (I like the font, and the slot load is sweet). Overall, games are what people care about, and Sony is definitely lacking in showing us what their console will be able to produce (it has been long proven by now that the killzone pics were produced by an animation and 3d studio), while the xbox has shown some amazing stuff that at least has not been proven yet to have been not ingame.

Posted at 5:39AM on Dec 19th 2005 by Joey Geraci

34. Do you have even the slightest bit of evidence that the majority of the people criticizing the ps3's design are xbox users? God where some of these ideas come from are beyond me.

Posted at 5:39AM on Dec 19th 2005 by Joey Geraci

35. why are people bashing the size? what the hell are you going to do with it go sky diving? get over it, the controller looks like a sidewinder for the pc.

Posted at 5:39AM on Dec 19th 2005 by leblanchomme

36. I still don't get the controller for the PS3....to me it looks like two dicks with the analog sticks making the ballsack...

Posted at 5:39AM on Dec 19th 2005 by Brave.Quail

37. Black is the colour to go, it's more slimming, and tones down those massive curves

Posted at 5:39AM on Dec 19th 2005 by The Doctor

38. All you muther fuckerz should just go out an get's you a brand NEW sony playstation 3.Then and ONLY then will I allow you cry baby bitches say anything you want about that fuckin GAME system! Your god has spoken.

Posted at 5:39AM on Dec 19th 2005 by lunatic killa

39. > Do you have even the slightest bit of
> evidence that the majority of the people
> criticizing the ps3's design are xbox users?

How about the 60 comments in this thread from people saying "omg ths thig sux i buy xpox 360!!!!!1"

Posted at 5:39AM on Dec 19th 2005 by mt

40. if you have an ipod buy white, if you have a silver surround sound set buy silver, if you have a psp, buy black.

Posted at 5:39AM on Dec 19th 2005 by leblanchomme